Session 7: Testing for Two Populations
Problem
You are a data analyst in the UK’s banking sector.
The management team wants to know if there’s a significant difference in loan approval times between Lloyds Bank and HSBC.
Notes
Population variances may be known or unknown, equal or unequal
Sample sizes may not be the same
Interval Estimation of \(\mu_1 -\mu_2\)
Hypothesis Tests about \(\mu_1 -\mu_2\)
Let \(\mu_1\) equal the mean of population 1 and \(\mu_2\) equal the mean of population 2.
The difference between the two population means is \(\mu_1 - \mu_2\).
To estimate \(\mu_1 - \mu_2\), we will select a simple random sample of size \(n_1\) from population 1 and a simple random sample of size \(n_2\) from population 2.
Let \(\bar{x}_1\) equal the mean of sample 1 and \(\bar{x}_2\) equal the mean of sample 2.
The point estimator of the difference between the means of the populations 1 and 2 is \(\bar{x}_1 - \bar{x}_2\).
Expected Value: \[E(\bar{x}_1 - \bar{x}_2) = \mu_1 - \mu_2\]
Standard Deviation (Standard Error): \[\sigma_{\bar{x}_1-\bar{x}_2} = \sqrt{\frac{\sigma_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{\sigma_2^2}{n_2}}\]
where:
\(\sigma_1 =\) standard deviation of population 1
\(\sigma_2 =\) standard deviation of population 2
\(n_1 =\) sample size from population 1
\(n_2 =\) sample size from population 2
Interval Estimate: \[\bar{x}_1 - \bar{x}_2 \pm z_{\alpha/2} \sqrt{\frac{\sigma_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{\sigma_2^2}{n_2}}\]
where: \[1 - \alpha \text{ is the confidence coefficient}\]
Data (the figures here are not the facts):
Lloyds Bank: A random sample of 50 loan applications
Average approval time of 7 days.
Known standard deviation of 2 days.
HSBC: A random sample of 60 loan applications
Average approval time of 6.5 days.
Known standard deviation of 2.5 days.
Task:
\[\begin{aligned} \text{For Lloyds Bank (LB):} & \quad n_{LB} = 50, \bar{x}_{LB} = 7, \sigma_{LB} = 2 \\ \text{For HSBC Bank:} & \quad n_{HSBC} = 60, \bar{x}_{HSBC} = 6.5, \sigma_{HSBC} = 2.5 \end{aligned}\]
The formula for the 95% confidence interval is: \[CI = \bar{x}_{LB} - \bar{x}_{HSBC} \pm z_{\alpha/2} \sqrt{\frac{\sigma_{LB}^2}{n_{LB}} + \frac{\sigma_{HSBC}^2}{n_{HSBC}}}\] where \(z_{\alpha/2} \approx 1.96\).
Computing the Margin of Error (ME): \[ME \approx 1.96 \times \sqrt{4/50 + 6.25/60}\] \[ME \approx 0.84\]
So, the 95% Confidence Interval is: \[CI: (-0.34, 1.34)\]
Hypotheses
0.3 Left-tailed
\[\begin{aligned}
H_0 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 \geq D_0 \\
H_1 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 < D_0
\end{aligned}\]
0.3 Right-tailed
\[\begin{aligned}
H_0 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 \leq D_0 \\
H_1 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 > D_0
\end{aligned}\]
0.3 Two-tailed
\[\begin{aligned}
H_0 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 = D_0 \\
H_1 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 \neq D_0
\end{aligned}\]
Where \(D_0\) is the assumed difference between two populations.
Test Statistic
\[z = \frac{\bar{x}_1 - \bar{x}_2 - D_0}{\sqrt{\frac{\sigma_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{\sigma_2^2}{n_2}}}\]
Data (the figures here are not the facts):
Lloyds Bank: A random sample of 50 loan applications
Average approval time of 7 days.
Known standard deviation of 2 days.
HSBC: A random sample of 60 loan applications
Average approval time of 6.5 days.
Known standard deviation of 2.5 days.
Task:
We want to test if there’s a significant difference in the average approval times between Lloyds Bank and HSBC.
\[\begin{aligned} H_0 &: \mu_{LB} - \mu_{HSBC} = 0 \quad (\text{No difference})\\ H_1 &: \mu_{LB} - \mu_{HSBC} \neq 0 \quad (\text{There's a difference}) \end{aligned}\]
For Lloyds Bank: \[\bar{x}_{LB} = 7, \quad \sigma_{LB} = 2, \quad n_{LB} = 50\]
For HSBC: \[\bar{x}_{HSBC} = 6.5, \quad \sigma_{HSBC} = 2.5, \quad n_{HSBC} = 60\]
The test statistic for the hypothesis test is given by: \[z = \frac{\bar{x}_{LB} - \bar{x}_{HSBC}}{\sqrt{\frac{\sigma_{LB}^2}{n_{LB}} + \frac{\sigma_{HSBC}^2}{n_{HSBC}}} } \approx 1.165\]
Critical Value Approach:
For a two-tailed test at \(\alpha = 0.05\): Critical z-value \(\approx \pm 1.96\)
Since \(|1.165| < 1.96\), we fail to reject the null hypothesis.
P-Value Approach:
For \(z \approx 1.165\): P-value \(\approx 0.244\)
Since \(0.244 > 0.05\), we fail to reject the null hypothesis using the p-value approach as well.
Conclusion: There’s no significant difference in the average approval times between Lloyds Bank and HSBC at the 5% significance level.
Estimation:of \(\mu_1 - \mu_2\)
Hypothesis test \(\mu_1 - \mu_2\) (also it is called, Welch’s t-test)
Hypotheses
0.3 Left-tailed
\[\begin{aligned}
H_0 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 \geq D_0 \\
H_1 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 < D_0
\end{aligned}\]
0.3 Right-tailed
\[\begin{aligned}
H_0 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 \leq D_0 \\
H_1 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 > D_0
\end{aligned}\]
0.3 Two-tailed
\[\begin{aligned}
H_0 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 = D_0 \\
H_1 &: \mu_1 - \mu_2 \neq D_0
\end{aligned}\]
Where \(D_0\) is the assumed difference between two populations.
Test Statistic
\[t = \frac{\bar{x}_1 - \bar{x}_2 - D_0}{\sqrt{\frac{s_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{s_2^2}{n_2}}}\] where the degree of freedom for \(t_{\alpha/2}\) are: \[df = \frac{\left(\frac{s_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{s_2^2}{n_2}\right)^2}{\frac{1}{n_1-1} \left(\frac{s_1^2}{n_1}\right)^2 + \frac{1}{n_2-1} \left(\frac{s_2^2}{n_2}\right)^2}\] Note: we usually use software to calculate it, but if you don’t have it, just use: \[df = \min\{n_1 -1, n_2 - 1\}\]
Independence: Observations should be independent. This is met if samples are randomly drawn or if the process is random like rolling a die.
Normality: For small samples, observations should be from a normal population. This can be relaxed for larger samples. Rules of thumb:
For \(n < 30\) and no clear outliers: data is assumed nearly normal.
For \(n \geq 30\) and no particularly extreme outliers: sampling distribution is assumed nearly normal.
In many data science projects, we still need to draw histogram plots or QQ (Quantile-Quantile) plot to check the normality.

Definition: Uses data from two samples with similar standard deviations (even though we don’t know their population std) to estimate a common standard deviation.
Formula (Pooled Standard Deviation): \[s^2_{\text{pooled}} = \frac{s^2_1 \times (n_1 - 1) + s^2_2 \times (n_2 - 1)}{n_1 + n_2 - 2}\] Degrees of freedom: \(df = n_1 + n_2 - 2\).
Benefits: Provides a better estimate for group standard deviation and a larger degrees of freedom for t-distribution.
Caution: Only pool when background research indicates nearly equal population standard deviations.
Weights of diamonds are measured in carats.
1 carat = 100 points, 0.99 carats = 99 points, etc.
The difference between the size of a 0.99 carat diamond and a 1 carat diamond is undetectable to the naked human eye, but does the price of a 1 carat diamond tend to be higher than the price of a 0.99 diamond?
We are going to test to see if there is a difference between the average prices of 0.99 and 1 carat diamonds.
In order to be able to compare equivalent units, we divide the prices of 0.99 carat diamonds by 99 and 1 carat diamonds by 100, and compare the average point prices.
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| 0.99 carat | 1 carat | |
| pt99 | pt100 | |
| \(\bar{X}\) | 44.50 | 53.43 |
| \(s\) | 13.32 | 12.22 |
| \(n\) | 23 | 30 |
Parameter of interest: Average difference between the point prices of all 0.99 carat and 1 carat diamonds. \[\mu_{pt99} - \mu_{pt100}\]
\(\:\)
Point estimate: Average difference between the point prices of sampled 0.99 carat and 1 carat diamonds. \[\bar{X}_{pt99} - \bar{X}_{pt100}\]
Which of the following is the correct set of hypotheses for testing if the average point price of 1 carat diamonds (\(_{pt100}\)) is higher than the average point price of 0.99 carat diamonds (\(_{pt99}\))?
\(H_0:\) \(\mu_{pt99} = \mu_{pt100}\)
\(H_1:\) \(\mu_{pt99} \ne \mu_{pt100}\)
\(H_0:\) \(\mu_{pt99} = \mu_{pt100}\)
\(H_1:\) \(\mu_{pt99} > \mu_{pt100}\)
\(H_0:\) \(\mu_{pt99} = \mu_{pt100}\)
\(H_1:\) \(\mu_{pt99} < \mu_{pt100}\)
\(H_0:\) \(\bar{X}_{pt99} = \bar{X}_{pt100}\)
\(H_1:\) \(\bar{X}_{pt99} < \bar{X}_{pt100}\)
Which of the following does not need to be satisfied in order to conduct this hypothesis test using theoretical methods?
Point price of one 0.99 carat diamond in the sample should be independent of another, and the point price of one 1 carat diamond should independent of another as well.
Point prices of 0.99 carat and 1 carat diamonds in the sample should be independent.
Distributions of point prices of 0.99 and 1 carat diamonds should not be extremely skewed.
Both sample sizes should be at least 30.
Test statistic for inference on the difference of two small sample means The test statistic for inference on the difference of two means where \(\sigma_1\) and \(\sigma_2\) are unknown is the \(T\) statistic. \[t_{df} = \frac{\text{point estimate} - \text{null value}}{SE}\] where \[SE = \sqrt{ \frac{s_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{s_2^2}{n_2} } \qquad \text{ and } \qquad df = min(n_1 - 1, n_2 - 1)\]
Note: The calculation of the \(df\) is actually much more complicated. For simplicity we’ll use the above formula to estimate the true \(df\) when conducting the analysis by hand.
| 0.99 carat | 1 carat | |
| pt99 | pt100 | |
| \(\bar{x}\) | 44.50 | 53.43 |
| \(s\) | 13.32 | 12.22 |
| \(n\) | 23 | 30 |
in context...
\[\begin{aligned} t &=& \frac{\text{point estimate} - \text{null value} }{SE} \\ &=& \frac{(44.50 - 53.43) - 0}{ \sqrt{\frac{13.32^2}{23} + \frac{12.22^2}{30} }} \\ &=& \frac{-8.93}{3.56} \\ &=& -2.507 \end{aligned}\]
Which of the following is the correct \(df\) for this hypothesis test?
22
23
30
29
52
\(\rightarrow df = min(n_{pt99} - 1, n_{pt100} - 1)\)
\(= min(23 - 1, 30 - 1)\)
\(= min(22,29) = 22\)
Which of the following is the correct p-value for this hypothesis test?
\[t = -2.507 \qquad df = 22\]
between 0.005 and 0.01
between 0.01 and 0.025
between 0.025 and 0.05
> stats.t.cdf(-2.507, 22)
[1] 0.010029001182850803
What is the conclusion of the hypothesis test? How (if at all) would this conclusion change your behaviour if you went diamond shopping?
p-value is small (< 5%) so reject \(H_0\). The data provide convincing evidence to suggest that the point price of 0.99 carat diamonds is lower than the point price of 1 carat diamonds.
Maybe buy a 0.99 carat diamond? It looks like a 1 carat, but is significantly cheaper.
What is the equivalent confidence level for a one-sided hypothesis test at \(\alpha = 0.05\)?
90%
92.5%
95%
97.5%

Correct Answer: 90%
What is the appropriate \(t\) for a confidence interval for the average difference between the point prices of 0.99 and 1 carat diamonds?
1.32
1.72
2.07
2.82
> stats.t.ppf(0.95, 22)
[1] 1.717144
Calculate the interval, and interpret it in context.
\[\text{point estimate} \pm ME\] \[\begin{aligned} (\bar{x}_{pt99} - \bar{x}_{pt100}) \pm t^\star_{df} \times SE &=& (44.50 - 53.43) \pm 1.72 \times 3.56 \\ &=& -8.93 \pm 6.12 \\ &=& (-15.05, -2.81) \end{aligned}\] We are 90% confident that the average point price of a 0.99 carat diamond is $15.05 to $2.81 lower than the average point price of a 1 carat diamond.
If \(\sigma_1\) or \(\sigma_2\) is unknown, difference between the sample means follow a \(t\)-distribution with \(SE = \sqrt{ \frac{s_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{s_2^2}{n_1} }\).
Conditions:
independence within groups (often verified by a random sample, and if sampling without replacement, \(n <\) 10% of population) and between groups
no extreme skew in either group
Hypothesis testing: \[t_{df} = \frac{\text{point estimate} - \text{null value}}{SE}\text{, where }df = min(n_1 - 1, n_2 - 1)\]
Confidence interval: \[\text{point estimate} \pm t_{df}^\star \times SE\]
200 observations were randomly sampled from the High School and Beyond survey. The same students took a reading and writing test and their scores are shown below.
At a first glance, does there appear to be a difference between the average reading and writing test score?

The same students took a reading and writing test and their scores are shown below. Are the reading and writing scores of each student independent of each other?
| id | read | write | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 70 | 57 | 52 |
| 2 | 86 | 44 | 33 |
| 3 | 141 | 63 | 44 |
| 4 | 172 | 47 | 52 |
| \(\vdots\) | \(\vdots\) | \(\vdots\) | \(\vdots\) |
| 200 | 137 | 63 | 65 |
Yes
No
When two sets of observations have this special correspondence (not independent), they are said to be paired/matched.
To analyze paired data, it is often useful to look at the difference in outcomes of each pair of observations. \[\text{diff} = \text{read} - \text{write}\]
It is important that we always subtract using a consistent order.
| id | read | write | diff | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 70 | 57 | 52 | 5 |
| 2 | 86 | 44 | 33 | 11 |
| 3 | 141 | 63 | 44 | 19 |
| 4 | 172 | 47 | 52 | -5 |
| \(\vdots\) | \(\vdots\) | \(\vdots\) | \(\vdots\) | \(\vdots\) |
| 200 | 137 | 63 | 65 | -2 |

Parameter of interest: Average difference between the reading and writing scores of all high school students. \[\mu_{diff}\]
\(\:\)
Point estimate: Average difference between the reading and writing scores of sampled high school students. \[\bar{x}_{diff}\]
If in fact there was no difference between the scores on the reading and writing exams, what would you expect the average difference to be? \[\text{average diff} = 0\]
\(\:\)
What are the hypotheses for testing if there is a difference between the average reading and writing scores?
There is no difference between the average reading and writing score. \[\mu_{diff} = 0\]
There is a difference between the average reading and writing score. \[\mu_{diff} \ne 0\]
The analysis is no different than what we have done before.
We have data from one sample: differences.
We are testing to see if the average difference is different than 0.
Which of the following is true?
Since students are sampled randomly and are less than 10% of all high school students, we can assume that the difference between the reading and writing scores of one student in the sample is independent of another.
The distribution of differences is bimodal, therefore we cannot continue with the hypothesis test.
In order for differences to be random we should have sampled with replacement.
Since students are sampled randomly and are less than 10% all students, we can assume that the sampling distribution of the average difference will be nearly normal.
The observed average difference between the two scores is -0.545 points and the standard deviation of the difference is 8.887 points. Do these data provide convincing evidence of a difference between the average scores on the two exams? Use \(\alpha = 0.05\).

\[\begin{aligned} t &=& \frac{-0.545 - 0}{\frac{8.887}{\sqrt{200}}} \\ &=& \frac{-0.545}{0.628} = -0.87 \\ df &=& 200 - 1 = 199 \\ \text{p-value} &=& 0.1927 \times 2 = 0.3854 \end{aligned}\]
\(\:\)
Since p-value \(>\) 0.05, fail to reject, the data do not provide convincing evidence of a difference between the average reading and writing scores.
Which of the following is the correct interpretation of the p-value?
Probability that the average scores on the reading and writing exams are equal.
Probability that the average scores on the reading and writing exams are different.
Probability of obtaining a random sample of 200 students where the average difference between the reading and writing scores is at least 0.545 (in either direction), if in fact the true average difference between the scores is 0.
Probability of incorrectly rejecting the null hypothesis if in fact the null hypothesis is true.
Suppose we were to construct a 95% confidence interval for the average difference between the reading and writing scores. Would you expect this interval to include 0?
yes
no
cannot tell from the information given
\[\begin{aligned} -0.545 \pm 1.97 \frac{8.887}{\sqrt{200}} &=& -0.545 \pm 1.97 \times 0.628 \\ &=& -0.545 \pm 1.24 \\ &=& (-1.785, 0.695) \end{aligned}\]
Correct Answer: (a)
As banks undergo digital transformations, many are considering discontinuing physical branches in the next decade. How would this change impact your banking habits and preferences?
Significantly - I prefer in-person banking
Moderately - I use both online and in-person services
Minimally - I primarily use online services
Not at all - I exclusively bank online
In the below there are the distributions of responses from Edinburgh University as well as from a group of students at York University:
| Edinburgh | York | |
|---|---|---|
| Significantly | 454 | 69 |
| Moderately | 124 | 30 |
| Minimally | 52 | 4 |
| Not at all | 50 | 2 |
| Total | 680 | 105 |
Parameter of interest: Difference between the proportions of all York students and all Edinburgh who would who would say "significantly": \[ p_{YK} - p_{ED} \]
Point estimate: Difference between the proportions of sampled York students and sampled Edinburgh who would say "significantly": \[ \hat{p}_{YK} - \hat{p}_{ED} \]
The details are the same as before...
CI: \(point~estimate \pm margin~of~error\)
HT: Use \(Z = \frac{point~estimate - null~value}{SE}\) to find appropriate p-value.
We just need the appropriate standard error of the point estimate (\(SE_{ \hat{p}_{YK} - \hat{p}_{ED}}\)), which is the only new concept.
Standard error of the difference between two sample proportions \[SE_{(\hat{p}_1 - \hat{p}_2)} = \sqrt{ \frac{p_1(1-p_1)}{n_1} + \frac{p_2(1-p_2)}{n_2} }\]
Independence within groups:
The ED group is sampled randomly and we’re assuming that the YK group represents a random sample as well.
105 \(<\) 10% of all YK students and 680 \(<\) 10% of all ED.
We can assume that the attitudes of YK students in the sample are independent of each other, and attitudes of ED students in the sample are independent of each other as well.
Independence between groups: The sampled YK students and the ED students are independent of each other.
Success-failure:
At least 10 observed successes and 10 observed failures in the two groups.
Construct a 95% confidence interval for the difference between the proportions of Duke students and Americans who would say "significantly": (\(p_{YK} - p_{ED}\)).
| Data | YK | ED |
|---|---|---|
| Significantly | 69 | 454 |
| Not Significantly | 36 | 226 |
| Total | 105 | 680 |
| \(\hat{p}\) | 0.657 | 0.668 |
\[\begin{aligned} && (\hat{p}_{YK} - \hat{p}_{ED}) \pm z^\star \times \sqrt{ \frac{ \hat{p}_{YK} (1 - \hat{p}_{YK})}{n_{YK} } + \frac{ \hat{p}_{ED} (1 - \hat{p}_{ED})}{n_{ED} } } \\ &=& (0.657 - 0.668) \pm 1.96 \times \sqrt{ \frac{0.657 \times 0.343}{105} + \frac{0.668 \times 0.332}{680} } \\ &=& -0.011 \pm 1.96 \times 0.0497 \\ &=& -0.011 \pm 0.097 \\ &=& (-0.108, 0.086) \end{aligned}\]
Which of the following is the correct set of hypotheses for testing if the proportion of all YK students who would say "significantly" from the proportion of all ED who do?
\(H_0: p_{YK} = p_{ED}\)
\(H_A: p_{YK} \ne p_{ED}\)
\(H_0: \hat{p}_{YK} = \hat{p}_{ED}\)
\(H_A: \hat{p}_{YK} \ne \hat{p}_{ED}\)
\(H_0: p_{YK} - p_{ED} = 0\)
\(H_A: p_{YK} - p_{ED} \ne 0\)
\(H_0: p_{YK} = p_{ED}\)
\(H_A: p_{YK} < p_{ED}\)
Both (a) and (c) are correct.
When constructing a confidence interval for a population proportion, we check if the observed number of successes and failures are at least 10. \[n\hat{p} \ge 10 \qquad \qquad n(1-\hat{p}) \ge 10\]
When conducting a hypothesis test for a population proportion, we check if the expected number of successes and failures are at least 10. \[np_0 \ge 10 \qquad \qquad n(1-p_0) \ge 10\]
In the case of comparing two proportions where \(H_0: p_1 = p_2\), there isn’t a given null value we can use to calculated the expected number of successes and failures in each sample.
Therefore, we need to first find a common (pooled) proportion for the two groups, and use that in our analysis.
This simply means finding the proportion of total successes among the total number of observations.
\(\:\)
Pooled estimate of a proportion \[\hat{p} = \frac{\#~of~successes_1 + \#~of~successes_2}{n_1 + n_2}\]
Calculate the estimated pooled proportion of YK and ED students who would say "Significantly". Which sample proportion (\(\hat{p}_{YK}\) or \(\hat{p}_{ED}\)) the pooled estimate is closer to? Why?
| Data | YK | ED |
|---|---|---|
| A great deal | 69 | 454 |
| Not a great deal | 36 | 226 |
| Total | 105 | 680 |
| \(\hat{p}\) | 0.657 | 0.668 |
\[\begin{aligned} \hat{p} &=& \frac{\#~of~successes_1 + \#~of~successes_2}{n_1 + n_2} \\ &=& \frac{69+454}{105+680} = \frac{523}{785} = 0.666 \end{aligned}\]
Do these data suggest that the proportion of all YK students from the proportion of all ED who do? Calculate the test statistic, the p-value, and interpret your conclusion in context of the data.
| Data | YK | ED |
|---|---|---|
| A great deal | 69 | 454 |
| Not a great deal | 36 | 226 |
| Total | 105 | 680 |
| \(\hat{p}\) | 0.657 | 0.668 |
\[\begin{aligned} Z &=& \frac{(\hat{p}_{YK} - \hat{p}_{ED})}{\sqrt{ \frac{ \hat{p} (1 - \hat{p})}{n_{YK} } + \frac{ \hat{p} (1 - \hat{p})}{n_{ED} } }} \\ &=& \frac{(0.657 - 0.668)}{\sqrt{ \frac{0.666 \times 0.334}{105} + \frac{0.666 \times 0.334}{680} }} = \frac{-0.011}{0.0495} = -0.22 \\ p-value &=& 2 \times P(Z < -0.22) = 2 \times 0.41 = 0.82 \end{aligned}\]
Population parameter: \((p_1 - p_2)\), point estimate: \((\hat{p}_1 - \hat{p}_2)\)
Conditions:
independence within groups
independence between groups
at least 10 successes and failures in each group
\(SE_{(\hat{p}_1 - \hat{p}_2)} = \sqrt{ \frac{p_1(1-p_1)}{n_1} + \frac{p_2(1-p_2)}{n_2} }\)
for CI: use \(\hat{p}_1\) and \(\hat{p}_2\)
for HT:
when \(H_0: p_1 = p_2\): use \(\hat{p}_{pool} = \frac{\#~suc_1 + \#suc_2}{n_1 + n_2}\)
when \(H_0: p_1 - p_2 =\) (some value other than 0): use \(\hat{p}_1\) and \(\hat{p}_2\)
one sample two samples
mean \(SE = \frac{s}{\sqrt{n}}\) \(SE = \sqrt{ \frac{s_1^2}{n_1} + \frac{s_2^2}{n_2}}\)
proportion \(SE = \sqrt{ \frac{p(1-p)}{n} }\) \(SE = \sqrt{ \frac{p_1(1-p_1)}{n_1} + \frac{p_2(1-p_2)}{n_2} }\)
When working with means, it’s very rare that \(\sigma\) is known, so we usually use \(s\).
When working with proportions,
if doing a hypothesis test, \(p\) comes from the null hypothesis
if constructing a confidence interval, use \(\hat{p}\) instead
